· Max Lowery · Podcast Episode · 3 min read
#35 The Holistic Approach to Pain Management with Dr. Jason Won
In this episode, Max Lowery chats with Dr. Jason Won about chronic pain, debunking myths & exploring daily habits that contribute to discomfort. Dr. Won shares his holistic approach, emphasizing mindset, stress management, and behavioral changes for overcoming chronic pain.
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The Real Cause of Chronic Pain — and How to Finally Break Free
What if your pain isn’t just physical — but a learned pattern your brain can unlearn?
If you’ve been stuck in a cycle of aches, stiffness, or chronic discomfort that never seems to go away, this episode could change everything.
Max sits down with Dr. Jason Wan, a board-certified orthopedic clinical specialist and pain management expert, to uncover what really causes chronic pain — and why most of what we’ve been told about healing is outdated, incomplete, and often harmful.
Together, they break down how pain is influenced by far more than just muscles and joints — it’s shaped by your thoughts, emotions, habits, and even your beliefs about your body.
In this episode, you’ll learn:
The truth about chronic pain: why your symptoms may linger even after your body has physically healed.
The difference between the old “biomedical” model (which treats pain as purely physical) and the new biopsychosocial model, which considers mindset, stress, and lifestyle.
How fear, stress, and inactivity can train your brain to expect pain — even when there’s no real damage.
Everyday habits that make pain worse (like sitting all day or “resting” too much).
Why “avoid movement” is some of the worst medical advice you can follow.
How to reframe movement as medicine — and use small, frequent actions to retrain your body and brain.
The science-backed role of strength training in reducing pain, improving posture, and extending your health span.
Dr. Jason shares his own powerful story of recovering from chronic neck pain — not through medication or rest, but by rebuilding strength, resilience, and trust in his body. He explains how changing your relationship with pain is the key to breaking free from it.
You’ll also learn simple, practical tools like:
Using triggers (like phone reminders) to move every hour.
The “all-or-something” approach to stay consistent even on busy days.
How to tell the difference between “good pain” (healing) and “bad pain” (injury).
Why the body’s natural response to stress often manifests as tight shoulders, headaches, or tension — and how to reverse it with targeted movement.
Whether you’re dealing with back pain, neck stiffness, or long-term injuries, this conversation will help you see that pain isn’t a life sentence — it’s a message your body can unlearn.
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https://www.flexwithdoctorjay.com/Jason’s Instagram:
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